Hello everyone I'm XboxClown89, I finally going to cover Esdeath vs Vanica Zogratis. Two powerful battle seeking ladies it's going to get wild!!! I gotta say I got a few surprising arguments including a possible controversial one. Let's be honest, I know not everyone going to love this. Thankfully both their roles done in their respective stories.
Verdict
Vanica Zogratis
I know some people going to quickly lose it. Especially those bias in favor of Esdeath. For what it's worth both are among top tier characters in their respective universes. Unfortunately Black Clover's power scaling just a little higher. But it's still a huge power scaling difference. Esdeath can freeze an continent to alter it's weather patterns being Winter.
The sad truth as impressive that is. Even such a feat beneath a lot of Black Clover characters. Vanica herself more multicontential level even downplaying it. In this case being double the size of a continent. Vanica still be at least twice as powerful plus more. Vanica also possessed by a devil whose among the absolute strongest of her kind.
She also can steal control over Vanica at any given time. It's virtually two of them against one not looking good for Esdeath. Vanica is notably more durability with regeneration. Which is fast acting making her quite difficult to put down. Assuming you were fast enough to do so. Unfortunately Esdeath's fastest speed feats are a lot slower.
Simoun did point out in Akame Ga Kill! 0, Akame can go a lot faster. Easily calculated being faster than light speeds. Unfortunately even if I were to high ball Esdeath speed a little bit. I don't think that's going to change much. You can only do something with that speed advantage if you could actually do something with it.
At best, Esdeath could be measured around hypersonic speed. Vanica can keep up with Noelle who can move faster than light. A lot faster in comparison even with a power percentage system. You know like Younger Toguro in Yu Yu Hakusho, a similar power system. I know some Esdeath fans going to bring up her unusual time stop ability.
It doesn't work the usual way most time stop abilities works. Even if I were to put the description from Esdeath herself. People still going to be confused exactly how it works. Thankfully both ice and time used within powers exists in both universes. Which bags the most surprising argument I gotta make. This is going to cause some people to freak out.
Depending on which tier a devil is. Most of them goes from continental to multicontinental levels. Not only that highest tier devils like Megicula aren't affect by. Magic that isn't Arcane, Saint Stage or Anti-Magic respectively. Now Esdeath uses Demon's Extract, one of the forty eight Imperial Weapons. Actually was more directly the ice powers she gained through a ritual.
This might come as a surprise. A similar concept exists in Black Clover. This ritual is called Devil-Binding Ritual. Which involves the host to defeat the devil. If they win, they become their masters allowed to fully use all of their powers. What's even crazier is his vice captain who used to be a nobleman done the process four time and won them all.
Yes a single human is a master of four devils. Even if they're mid tier among their kind. Most devils are insanely powerful within Black Clover universe making that a truly impressive feat. This is just a comparison of a similar concept to keep things interested. It's also important to point out Esdeath isn't possessed by any demonic being neither an actual one.
Unfortunately, her powers doesn't classified as either of those. I'm also aware Esdeath has a particular move to destroy her opponents instantly. But her ice powers not being the type to harm possibly kill devils. Only means if Esdeath goes for a time stop. She actually can't do anything to Vanica or Megicula at all!!!
As long Vanica possessed by Megicula. Esdeath's ice powers virtually useless. Considering Megicula herself, imagine a little over three Esdeaths raw power wise. When she's in control, she's stronger than Vanica by a huge amount. Even directly stated by Noelle herself. There's no way Esdeath could match such a force on her own let alone her men.
She was one of the top generals in the Capitol. Well Vanica with two of her brothers easily took over the Spade Kingdom. Yes just an handful of siblings took over an entire kingdom is rather impressive. Even reducing Vanica a little bit doesn't change anything. She was one third of the force needed to take over that kingdom is quite an statement.
Vanica's regeneration is technically superior in a few ways from Esdeath. I still should point out Esdeath can create new limbs from her ice powers. Her time stop ability takes a enormous amount of energy to do. She prefers to use that ability once a day. Otherwise any further usages within a day could kill her. I still haven't talked about Vanica's two magic types directly yet.
She has Blood magic that allows Vanica to generate as well as manipulate her own blood at will. Although she still would need grimoires to use it's full power. She also can manipulate her blood into weapons, Vanica also can create creatures from blood she isn't a vampire. She also can control other living beings by manipulating their blood.
She just needs to use anything with that magic on Esdeath first. Curse-Warding Magic that came from Megicula possibly scarier. This magic allows the user to create powerful curses. Which can be casted on themselves as well as others. One weird advantage is she doesn't need a grimoire to use it. But like Blood magic to a degree still requires having one to use it's full potential.
These curses can cause harm or beneficial with many possible effects. You might need a barf bag for this I'm not kidding. She can deteriorating a person's body which Esdeath lacks a counter for. Curse-Warding magic also can weakening possibly cancel out enemy's spells. In this case, Esdeath's powers getting countered.
She also can detonate a person's magic power. Before I go on, Esdeath's ritual allowed her to get those ice powers. Magic itself has a spiritual connection within Black Clover universe. Therefore, I don't see Esdeath avoiding such an attack. This is meant to put anyone targeted to be at a disadvantage affecting their potential.
The same magic type also gave her regeneration. There's only two ways to get around this magic type. Either defeat Vanica obviously not happening or get her into a different plain of existence. Esdeath simply can't do that method even considering her time stop ability. Guess what I got one more surprise for ya!!!
If Megicula in control has a third magic type. Similar to Esdeath's ice powers, this ability allows the user to generate and manipulate at will. In this case, she can use Steel magic to manipulate steel. Just like the other two magic types needs a grimoire to use it's full potential. Each magic type can counter Esdeath in so many ways.
For example, Steel magic could easily prevent Megicula during a time stop. Of course since devils including those possessing humans still get frozen in time. If Vanica were to get low on blood, she simply uses Blood magic to refill. But considering her superior regeneration I highly doubt that's needed.
Despite all three not using grimoires. Regardless whose in control still gets a lot out of those magic types. To Esdeath they possibly come off as if they were at full power. Everyone knows Esdeath mastered her Imperial Weapon. Although it was stated only other Imperial Weapons can defeat each other.
This is a situation ultimately that golden rule among them doesn't even matter. Esdeath herself regularly uses a sword with her powers. Let's say out of curiosity if Vanica or Megicula couldn't do much about her ice powers. Esdeath still going to end up losing to either of them for many reasons. Going back to Curse-Warding magic for a moment.
Targeting a person's magic power helps even the playing field. Regardless if Esdeath had superior stats or not. Once again, Esdeath lacks a solid counter. This could even prevent her from freezing time. Possibly attempting to freeze Vanica along with the continent. Assuming Vanica or Megicula gets caught in the attack.
Due to not being something enough to magic types that harms or kills devils. Being frozen is just a waste of time pun very intended!!! Either can easily break out the ice with ease. At the same time, Esdeath used up a lot of energy to do that. Another notable factor with Vanica's regeneration prevents her getting tired against anyone weaker than her.
Some magic types can be used together. In this case doing so could truly be the stuff of nightmares!!! Esdeath is more of a strategist but Megicula isn't stupid either. Esdeath better hope Megicula decides to leave. Which would remove Curse-Warding magic as well as a lot of raw power. Thus making it a little closer than what it actually is.
There's no hiding it at this point, this is a clear stomp in favor of Vanica. I hate to say this even Esdeath were capable forcing Vanica into fighting without magic. Likely not happening, Vanica still has superior stats making that a terrible idea. Esdeath not on her level neither using the type of ice powers. In all honestly means Esdeath can only do so much to delay the inevitable.
Yes this is also considering what if Megicula left scenarios. It's also critical to note Vanica along with Megicula loss to Noelle who manipulates water. We all know ice is frozen water with oxygen trapped inside. Some people thinks Esdeath would take advantage of that. Considering her water magic weakened Blood Magic before.
Let's be honest, yes ice is frozen water. But I don't think it's going to matter much. Vanica still has one magic type she could use. Her speed is simply too fast to take a chance at exposing such a weakness. I also could make a similar argument that Esdeath loss to Akame. Now Akame wield another Imperial Weapon called Murasame.
One cut from this sword instantly kills. Which does work on powerful beings as proven against Esdeath herself. By now this directly plays right into Curse-Warding magic. Although Vanica could do some horrific things with that magic type. Suddenly you can't make that comparison with Noelle anymore. Even Noelle needed help from a powerful water spirit to beat both of them.
Esdeath could go all out but Vanica could easily win with roughly half her total raw power. Considering both of them loves facing strong opponents. If Esdeath doesn't live up to that excitement. Vanica isn't going to waste time to quickly finish her off. In my honest opinion would be a lot better. Then if Esdeath gotten her interest for many scary situations I mentioned.
Esdeath would be lucky to get Vanica to push herself higher a little higher than half her overall raw power. The famous power percentage system each level acts as huge power increases. In theory, Esdeath wouldn't last long against Vanica using higher percentages of her raw power. Esdeath also lacks a solid method to slow Vanica down either.
Esdeath also can't prevent Vanica using more of her raw power. The same also could be said of Megicula as well. Megicula is more likely going to finish the fight than mess around like Vanica. All of a sudden, Esdeath could go full power doesn't matter anymore. The idea of either of them briefly using 100% of their power would be overkill at this point.
I also got to point this out unlike Murasame. Where Esdeath quickly cut off one of her arms. She can't do that against Curse-Warding magic or Blood magic. In fact, if she attempted to do that. Vanica could easily manipulate her to stop or do something much worst. Esdeath can't prevent getting affected by either magic type making things even worst!!!
Esdeath used her time stop giving herself enough time to cut off her arm. Which means if she would've cut it off like normal. Esdeath would've died before attempting to decapitate her arm. Again Curse-Warding magic can directly target people. Esdeath not on her level removes the only option to save herself.
Also time stop while being affected by it would only delay her demise. Unfortunately Esdeath lacks anything solid offense as well as defense against them. Among using such a technique makes her more vulnerable to either Vanica's magic types. Let's be honest before that time stop this fight already was over.
Vanica or Megicula can quickly move through the air at such ridiculous speeds during combat. The most we got to go on was the very battle she fell in. If she died facing Akame then there's no way she's going to win against those two. Before I forget it's a lot to cover. Esdeath also has a mech that gotten destroyed.
There isn't mechs but golems being the closest thing in Black Clover. In fact one of Noelle's brigade members, Henry can control the Black Bulls headquarters like a giant golem I'm not kidding. Henry is like a huge magic vacuum cleaner constantly sucking in magic. But considering exactly what he specializes in, it's no surprise it takes so much magic to use.
I just needed to point that comparison out. More directly about Esdeath's mech, I don't think that would help much. Esdeath thought she was the strongest before she died. This is essentially order vs chaos with Esdeath representing order against Vanica's chaos. Vanica is simply too difficult to predict for Esdeath during a fight.
The sad truth is Vanica much scarier options excluding Megicula taking over. Esdeath would refuse to retreat against such an opponent. In her mind, if she could hold her off or possibly take her out could save the capitol. Regardless which reason you wanna stick with. Esdeath going to fight until she dies exactly who she is.
Vanica simply prefers to fight her enemies directly. Esdeath couldn't even hide long from her. Vanica having those magic types would make her suffering an absolute torture. Usually Esdeath enjoys torturing people not in that sense sick bastards!!!I know some people rather see Esdeath win. But realistically Vanica even without Megicula has too much over her.
Winner: Vanica Zogratis (Black Clover)
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